Urban Meyer, yes. Nick Saban, no. Everyone forgets now that Saban did not fail in Miami; the Dolphins forced his hand with their own mismanagement. After one season, Saban had the Dolphins at a respectable 9-7 despite a quarterback room that included Gus Frerotte and Sage Rosenfels. The Dolphins needed a quarterback to surpass the Patriots, and Saban wanted Drew Brees.
And Brees wanted Miami. But despite Dr. James Andrews, who Saban knew personally, giving his OK, the Dolphins’ doctors would not clear Brees. The Saints’ doctors did. Saban was overruled, Brees went to New Orleans and Saban was forced to settle for Daunte Culpepper. At that point, Saban decided at the end of the season that he was heading back to college, where he would have final say over his roster.
believing that Beilein was treating them as young, college athletes, not as professionals. And I think it’s the same reason “treating them as young, college athletes, not as professionals.”
One would think that someone, anyone, has done work to figure out whether a college hoops coach will have success in the pros. Like developing a good psych profile. Some teachers are simply better with elementary school kids, while others like myself are better fits for the 16+ range (later high school and college). A select few brave souls can handle middle school and immature freshmen (I’m not one of them). Coaching is something like that.
Makes perfect sense from a practical sense for all the reasons and examples you outline. I realize he's being paid handsomely at UConn, but $75 million (or whatever it was) guaranteed is $75 million. Yes, this would have been a disaster, but in a perfect world he gets fired after three seasons and rides into the sunset ... more likely, another college job ... with a lot of money for his trouble.
Tim Floyd preceded Hoiberg as a former Iowa State coach who left to take over the Bulls and was a disaster. What's crazy is that New Orleans hired him 2 years after the Bulls fired him, and he failed there as well. His career record in the NBA was 90-231.
As a Lakers fan, I am glad that Hurley did not take the job. He seemed like an odd fit for them.
Yes his weekend in LA gave him 20 million more on his contract to stay at Uconn.
He will be the 2nd highest paid employee for the state after Geno
Billy Donovan probably also belongs in this category. Nick Saban and Urban Meyer are obvious recent examples for the NFL.
Urban Meyer, yes. Nick Saban, no. Everyone forgets now that Saban did not fail in Miami; the Dolphins forced his hand with their own mismanagement. After one season, Saban had the Dolphins at a respectable 9-7 despite a quarterback room that included Gus Frerotte and Sage Rosenfels. The Dolphins needed a quarterback to surpass the Patriots, and Saban wanted Drew Brees.
And Brees wanted Miami. But despite Dr. James Andrews, who Saban knew personally, giving his OK, the Dolphins’ doctors would not clear Brees. The Saints’ doctors did. Saban was overruled, Brees went to New Orleans and Saban was forced to settle for Daunte Culpepper. At that point, Saban decided at the end of the season that he was heading back to college, where he would have final say over his roster.
Calling him an NFL failure is wrong.
believing that Beilein was treating them as young, college athletes, not as professionals. And I think it’s the same reason “treating them as young, college athletes, not as professionals.”
One would think that someone, anyone, has done work to figure out whether a college hoops coach will have success in the pros. Like developing a good psych profile. Some teachers are simply better with elementary school kids, while others like myself are better fits for the 16+ range (later high school and college). A select few brave souls can handle middle school and immature freshmen (I’m not one of them). Coaching is something like that.
Makes perfect sense from a practical sense for all the reasons and examples you outline. I realize he's being paid handsomely at UConn, but $75 million (or whatever it was) guaranteed is $75 million. Yes, this would have been a disaster, but in a perfect world he gets fired after three seasons and rides into the sunset ... more likely, another college job ... with a lot of money for his trouble.
Tim Floyd preceded Hoiberg as a former Iowa State coach who left to take over the Bulls and was a disaster. What's crazy is that New Orleans hired him 2 years after the Bulls fired him, and he failed there as well. His career record in the NBA was 90-231.
As a Lakers fan, I am glad that Hurley did not take the job. He seemed like an odd fit for them.
Yes! Floyd!!! He was a disaster! And he kept getting hired!